Analogue Synths like the Behringer Wasp,Crave, Model D etc

spev11 Frets: 526
15 Oct, 2024
As a shit guitar player I'm contemplating infecting another instrument with my eager ineptitude, namely synths.
I hate the whole digital VST, plug in thing (I've tried many times with amp sims etc and never enjoyed the process).

Using the model D as an example, its got knobs, lots of em (I like this) and I'll need a MIDI keyboard to dick about with. 
So the question is are they ok? I want to create ambient pads maybe learn a little keyboard skill. I'm not likely to need a multi octave keyboard so the little Akai MP range or similar would suffice and the analogue/monophonic nature is appealing but I don't know where to start. Want to keep the budget as low as possible really.

If someone can point me down the correct rabbit hole that would be lovely, youtube channels etc etc
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You won't go wrong with any of them, really, for the money.

I'm currently selling Crave to fund Model D, just because I'm more used to the latter and don't want to go down the rabbit hole of modular.
spev11 Frets: 526
15 Oct, 2024
ta, I'd love to go down the modular route but I dont really need that level (nor do I know what to do with it) but it looks so interesting
horse Frets: 1693
15 Oct, 2024
They're cool imo, and deliver value for money that would have been hard to imagine 10 years ago. For ambient pads I'd tend to think polyphonic rather than monophonic though, and a good built in reverb too (although you could probably stick one through some guitar FX if needed).
KDS Frets: 268
15 Oct, 2024
Korg Minilogue (I have one)  or smaller Monologue (son has one) are good fun
thermionic Frets: 10204
15 Oct, 2024
The Monologue is great for old-school synth sounds and to learn how to create them, but it won't really do ambient pads, being monophonic.
monquixote Frets: 18596
15 Oct, 2024
It's a digital reproduction of analogue, but you can't go wrong with the Yamaha Reface CS. It's completely WYSIWYG and it encourages learning plus despite being cheap it's used by loads of pros.

Otherwise I'd recommend the Korg Minilogue or Aturia Microfreak, or Microbrute as they already have keyboards. 

If you want to make little tracks then the Circuit Tracks is awesome.
TeleMaster Frets: 10876
15 Oct, 2024
Monologue or Minifreak. Great sounds, pretty easy to use and not that expensive. I have both.

I had a Polybrute, a Summit and a Iridium and now I just have those two and I can do all kinds of mad stuff with them and a Digitakt. I'll probably get a Summit again at some point but for now this is more than enough for me. 
spev11 Frets: 526
15 Oct, 2024
im assuming the aturias can use the midi over USB to control something like garageband If i wanted to utilise the keyboard as a midi option?
Jalapeno Frets: 6491
15 Oct, 2024
Anyone tried Behringer TD3 (303-alike) ?
monquixote Frets: 18596
15 Oct, 2024
Jalapeno said:
Anyone tried Behringer TD3 (303-alike) ?


If you are looking for a 303 I'd get the Donner. You can get it super cheap when they have a sale and it's really good.
TeleMaster Frets: 10876
15 Oct, 2024
spev11 said:
im assuming the aturias can use the midi over USB to control something like garageband If i wanted to utilise the keyboard as a midi option?
Yep that should work. I believe there were some issues with it at launched but I think they're fixed now.
gusman2x Frets: 942
15 Oct, 2024
Korg minilogue XD or the Behringer Deepmind 6. 

Both excellent sounding (mostly)  analogue synths. 
Jalapeno Frets: 6491
15 Oct, 2024
Jalapeno said:
Anyone tried Behringer TD3 (303-alike) ?


If you are looking for a 303 I'd get the Donner. You can get it super cheap when they have a sale and it's really good.
Ta. They're hardly pricey but will take a look ;)

monquixote Frets: 18596
15 Oct, 2024
Jalapeno said:
Jalapeno said:
Anyone tried Behringer TD3 (303-alike) ?


If you are looking for a 303 I'd get the Donner. You can get it super cheap when they have a sale and it's really good.
Ta. They're hardly pricey but will take a look ;)


The reason I'd choose the Donner is because it has a really fun jammable sequencer whereas most 303s are like torture.
Teetonetal Frets: 7910
15 Oct, 2024
@spev11 I have also started going down the Behringer Synth Rabbit hole, I can share my perspective so far with you.

I decided to do this is the cheapest way I could, as I suspect this is fad.,..

Purchase 1: Behringer Model D, because I love classic Moog Sounds. Getting used to the constraints of the HW vs SW where so much extra is possible has been a challenge, especially getting used to Mono!! Spending time with the device and watching a lot of videos has finally got me familiar with all the routing...

Purchase 2: Behringer Swing, All of the fun with synths is in the know tweaking, so I wanted an arpeggiator and a sequencer. I toyed with getting a Crave as it is both those things + a synth, but the Swing is so cheap. It's VERY close to an Arturia Keystep, but 1/3rd of the price. 

Purchase 3: Korg Beats - needed some drums. Got this one form the forum - will replace with something more fully featured in the future. Does a job and sounds good.

Purchase 4: Behringer Cat - ordered today as I wanted a different sound to the Model D - it is able to play the two VCOs separately. Will sync all up with Midi so I can start producing something a bit more layered. The cat also looks like it does a good line in mad noise, which I like.

Next on my list is the newly announced Behringer Grind as it's variety of VCO looks great - or if it's going really well, all in on a Deepmind 12


Emp_Fab Frets: 26494
15 Oct, 2024
I came here to post exactly the same thread ! - on the same day !  How weird is that !!

I'm loving what they've been doing on the replica synth front...

https://www.behringer.com/catalog.html?brandName=behringer&catalog=Category&category=C-BEHRINGER-0-SYNTHESIZERSANDKEYBOARDS&itemsPerPage=60&pageNumber=1&sort=releaseDate
blobb Frets: 3372
16 Oct, 2024
Ed Ozric uses a Behringer PRO-1 now rather than his original. If it's good enough for Ed etc... 

It's a great synth for learning how all the controls interact. Mono, but it is famous as an 'effects' machine, cascading waterfalls and all that stuff.  I've got a real one and I can see the advantages in terms of desk space and not having to turn it on an hour before you need to use it to let it warm up / stabilise.


It's a digital reproduction of analogue, but you can't go wrong with the Yamaha Reface CS. It's completely WYSIWYG and it encourages learning plus despite being cheap it's used by loads of pros.

Otherwise I'd recommend the Korg Minilogue or Aturia Microfreak, or Microbrute as they already have keyboards. 

If you want to make little tracks then the Circuit Tracks is awesome.
I love my Microbrute which I bought during lockdown to scratch a synth itch I've had since I was a teenager. That said, I'm considering selling to to buy a Model D, or maybe a second hand Polybrute.

Another vote also for the Yamaha Reface series. Being an 80s vintage type I bought  a second hand Reface DX to relive my teenage years. Great fun, but only slightly less complicated to programme than it's 80s  predecessor.
monquixote Frets: 18596
16 Oct, 2024
Donner might be releasing an SH101 clone which might be interesting:

https://synthanatomy.com/2024/10/donner-l1-new-roland-sh-101-analog-synthesizer-clone-with-detachable-keyboard.html
swiller Frets: 1932
16 Oct, 2024
Id get a JDXi if i were you. Ticks a lot of boxes, including analog mono synth and  virtual analog/digital polysynth and a keyboard vocoder all into one. If ambient pads is your thing, dont go mono synth, polyphonic all the way. 

But if an analog mono is really what you are after, plenty of options as above. For me, i kept with a roland Se02 after various decade long rabbit holes. If you can revisit VST, Monark is absolutely brilliant and the closest thing to a moog model d ive heard. Behringer clones? not sure tbh. 


Teetonetal Frets: 7910
16 Oct, 2024
Well, the CAT arrived today and is extremely unintuitive .) spent at least an hour convinced it was broken but turns out it's just mad
goldtop Frets: 7009
16 Oct, 2024
Surely, for ambient, any synth through a full-on modern reverb is the answer?

Something like the Ventris Dual Reverb with even a Volca Bass can make huuuuuuge washy spaces. (Polyphony lets you be more ambitious, of course - Minilogue XD.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap3eGNf30SE
monquixote Frets: 18596
16 Oct, 2024
I'm considering a Dreadbox Nyx which has an ambient reverb built in and is quite cost effective as a kit.

Also the Behringer grandmother clone has a reverb.
spev11 Frets: 526
17 Oct, 2024
In a rare show of restraint i've just ordered a Midi keyboard to use with my Mac so I can learn some keyboard skills first then I'll stump up for a compatible synth unit once ive achieved a similar level of disappointing skill as the guitar. How long it will last before I just stump up for a Model D or summat I dunno  =)  
spev11 Frets: 526
17 Oct, 2024
Wil do, honestly If I havent succumbed to buying a desktop unit to go with it by the end of the month then I'm probably ill  :#
The Animoog is quite an odd software only synth from moog and free. Well worth grabbing. They also do a few emulations or their own synths, like the Model D, but you gotta pay for those. Just noticed they do sims of their effects too, which might be fun 
monquixote Frets: 18596
17 Oct, 2024
If I was going to spend some money on VST synths I'd go UHe or Synapse Audio.

If you want something cheaper then Cherry Audio.
Teyeplayer Frets: 3568
17 Oct, 2024
If you go down the module route and need a small practical midi keyboard, I’ve an Arturia in the classifieds. ;)
spev11 Frets: 526
17 Oct, 2024
Well, in a flurry of activity at chez spev11, I just bought a used Korg Minilogue, if it turns out to be shite I’ll have a look at that aturia, 
ta chaps