Advice/Help wanted. How do I get drums into my performance?
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Hi. A simple solution to add some percussion is a drum pedal. Simply tap along with your foot. It can play fills, flams, parradiddles and in any key.
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There are also simple rhythm machines that can loop away in the background They have midi these days too.
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There are also simple rhythm machines that can loop away in the background They have midi these days too.
Click track with backing....our drums are live tho' so it's for production elements / synths etc.TheBigDipper said:
What do other people do? Ta!
There is some of this flexibility in Trio+. You would need to train it with your part beforehand but it can sequence parts (upto 5) and you can trigger a move between them with the extra footswitch. You could train it live in front of your audience if you really wanted to.
Have you checked out the Beat Buddy?
I owned (well, long term loan, actually) the BB Mini for a while until the owner returned to the UK. Good reminder. I should. Ta.mrkb said:Have you checked out the Beat Buddy?
Loopy on the ipad
Another decent reminder. Thanks. I've got a copy of Loopy Pro, but never did much with it because I didn't have a MIDI controller at the time. I do now...monquixote said:Loopy on the ipad
Well, well, well… Loopy Pro is doing exactly what I was looking for, with audio loops at least. That’s probably good enough for getting started. It's a very powerful product and I'm just scratching the surface of it, but so far, so good. I can hit the button on the MC6 marked "chorus" and it loads the right effect preset on the H90 and switches to the chorus drum loop. Ta, @monquixote
I’ve long hankered after a software-only looper setup! Seems obvious that the functionality of (often expensive) hardware loopers could easily be replicated (and vastly expanded) on phones, iPads etc. So I’ll be watching here with interest. I’ve just dowloaded Loopy Pro and will have a play when I have time. If you don’t mind me asking, what kit are you using with Loopy on the iPad in terms of interfaces, MIDI controllers etc.?
TheBigDipper said:Well, well, well… Loopy Pro is doing exactly what I was looking for, with audio loops at least. That’s probably good enough for getting started. It's a very powerful product and I'm just scratching the surface of it, but so far, so good. I can hit the button on the MC6 marked "chorus" and it loads the right effect preset on the H90 and switches to the chorus drum loop. Ta, @monquixote
If you need to go further than that you can load AUs into it I think so you could embed a simple drum machine like Hammerhead, or similar.
I'll start a new thread in the Live section to explain what I'm up to, so this thread can die quietly. Should be there later today.smigeon said:I’ve long hankered after a software-only looper setup! Seems obvious that the functionality of (often expensive) hardware loopers could easily be replicated (and vastly expanded) on phones, iPads etc. So I’ll be watching here with interest. I’ve just dowloaded Loopy Pro and will have a play when I have time. If you don’t mind me asking, what kit are you using with Loopy on the iPad in terms of interfaces, MIDI controllers etc.?
That hadn't occurred to me, but as a promised enhancement at some point soon is support for MIDI loops inside Loopy, that's something I should look at, I think. The load time of a new project in Loopy seems to be affected by the size of your audio loops and in comparison, MIDI files are tiny.monquixote said:TheBigDipper said:Well, well, well… Loopy Pro is doing exactly what I was looking for, with audio loops at least. That’s probably good enough for getting started. It's a very powerful product and I'm just scratching the surface of it, but so far, so good. I can hit the button on the MC6 marked "chorus" and it loads the right effect preset on the H90 and switches to the chorus drum loop. Ta, @monquixote
If you need to go further than that you can load AUs into it I think so you could embed a simple drum machine like Hammerhead, or similar.
So I'm looking to dip my toe into the idea of player-controlled drum patterns. Something where I can control the timing of the starts and stops. I don't want to start an audio backing track and just play along to it. I want to be able to double the length of a section if it's getting an audience response or change early if it isn't. The picture I have in my minds eye is that extra MIDI messages from the MC6 cause some device I've got to instantly start playing the correct drum pattern for that section. When I press the button to change effects for the next section, the correct drum patter for that section instantly starts playing. When I press the stop button, the drums stop.
The best idea I can come up with is using MIDI-controlled drum loops. Preferably MIDI drum loops rather than audio drum loops, so I can change tempo or drum kit on the fly without needing to re-record anything. Creating MIDI drum loops or audio loops is not an issue. I'm using DM1 (an iPad-based drum machine app) and Logic Pro to create drum parts and both of those will export drum parts as a MIDI file as well as an audio file.
I'm not worried about the solution being able to create audio loops on the fly. I'm a very casual user of live looping and it doesn't matter if I keep on using something else for that. This is purely for playing pre-programmed drum patterns on demand.
Any suggestions, anyone? I know I could use a Macbook and control that using MIDI (Mainstage, Logic) but I really don't want to. It's too much hardware to schlep around. I could entertain using an iPad with the right app, but don't know what that app is. DM1 is an excellent software-based drum machine. If only it responded to MIDI input to play patterns on demand. But it doesn't. The best thing I've found so far was the Boss RC-10R, and that didn't quite do everything for me because it really isn't aimed squarely at this sort of use case and the software fell short. But my preferred form factor would be a Boss-sized pedal on my pedalboard.
If I have to use a piece of hardware that lets me store and play audio loops on demand using MIDI, what would people suggest? Is there something else that - like the RC-10R - can accept MIDI files and has the software to play them back using sampled drum sounds it already has loaded in?
What do other people do? Ta!