Need some help dating a Fender P Bass for a mate

stonevibe Frets: 7495
19 Oct, 2024
My friend is trying to find a date for his Fender Precision.

It looks mid-70s to me...? However, I am no expert with P Basses. 

Any help is appreciated, and he has sent me these photos (pickups were changed in the '90s, and he has owned it since around 1987)













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PeteBo Frets: 176
19 Oct, 2024
Unscrew the neck, I'd think it'd have a date stamp on the back of the heel
stonevibe Frets: 7495
19 Oct, 2024
PeteBo said:
Unscrew the neck, I'd think it'd have a date stamp on the back of the heel
I haven't got the bass here, and the owner has sent me these pictures; they aren't comfortable taking it apart. 

stickyfiddle Frets: 29583
19 Oct, 2024
PeteBo said:
Unscrew the neck, I'd think it'd have a date stamp on the back of the heel
I'd have thought you need to at least take it for dinner before considering screwing! 

But seriously that serial number puts it squarely in 1975. Spec looks right for that as well, not that the P changed much after 1960. Black guard (if original) means mid 70s onwards so aligns with the serial

https://www.andybaxterbass.com/blogs/news/fender-serial-number-guide 

https://reverb.com/news/how-to-date-a-fender#Fseries1965-1976

And the decal matches the 74 one here https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/128339-70s-fender-precision-timeline/#
stonevibe Frets: 7495
19 Oct, 2024
PeteBo said:
Unscrew the neck, I'd think it'd have a date stamp on the back of the heel
I'd have thought you need to at least take it for dinner before considering screwing! 

But seriously that serial number puts it squarely in 1975. Spec looks right for that as well

https://www.andybaxterbass.com/blogs/news/fender-serial-number-guide 

https://reverb.com/news/how-to-date-a-fender#Fseries1965-1976
Yeah, I thought it looked mid 70s, as that colour, serial number with F logo plate, and skunk stripe, etc 

Have you tried giving it some compliments & inviting to the cinema?
ICBM Frets: 75721
19 Oct, 2024
Almost certainly 1975 from the serial number, as stickyfiddle said.

If you don't want to take the neck off - bearing in mind not all 70s Fenders have the date 'in clear' on the neck - take the pickguard off instead... you don't need to even loosen the strings, just be careful not to pull on the pickup wires as you move the guard out from under them - and look at the pot date codes. If they're original they will have codes on them reading 137xxyy where xx is the year and yy the week of manufacture - obviously the bass can't be earlier than this, and will in most cases be a few weeks or months later.


pedalo Frets: 180
20 Oct, 2024
It’ll never last!
stonevibe Frets: 7495
20 Oct, 2024
If it was mine and I had it here, that neck would be off. I’ve told my mate I thought it was either 75 or 76. You have all given me some great information and so I have passed that on to him. Thank you all for your help, really appreciate you taking time to pitch in your thoughts on this. Nice one guys! 
1975 I'd say ... and that classic mid seventies combo of black guard and 'Sunburnt Malteser' finish.
Funkfingers Frets: 15568
20 Oct, 2024
ICBM said:
… look at the pot date codes. If they're original they will have codes on them 
The pickup has been changed to a DiMarzio. It is possible that one of the pots has also been changed to a push/pull to allow series/parallel mode switching of the interconnection of the coils.

'Sunburnt Malteser' finish.
Looks like CBS's so-called Walnut finish, referred to inaccurately by some sellers as Mocca and by me as Shit Brown.
Pretty much what’s been said above,  I’d say it’s a 75 looking at the neck plate serial and the gasket underneath, large TV logo puts it before 76 when they changed to the S6 style ,it’s not the original pickguard as it doesn’t have the holes for the thumb rest above the E string from what I can see, the neck heel stamp would be more accurate to date the neck, pot codes and capacitor would date the electrics, it’s a cool bass, I’d have to change the odd tuner but that’s just me  =)
Al_Nico Frets: 55
22 Oct, 2024
Very cool instrument.

Serial range 6XXXXX generally aligns with manufacture between 1975 and 1976.
ICBM Frets: 75721
22 Oct, 2024

it’s not the original pickguard as it doesn’t have the holes for the thumb rest above the E string
Good point. That makes me wonder if the original guard was white - otherwise, why change it - which would definitely make it earlier rather than later, as the black guards started in '75.
Voxman Frets: 5048
22 Oct, 2024
pedalo said:
It’ll never last!
All depends on how much bottom she has and whether she's a good pluck! 
LukeFRC Frets: 19
01 Nov, 2024
Wonder why there’s an extra screw in the middle of the pickguard? I think that’s not original as there’s no screw holes for the thumbrest/tugbar 
ICBM Frets: 75721
01 Nov, 2024
LukeFRC said:
Wonder why there’s an extra screw in the middle of the pickguard? I think that’s not original as there’s no screw holes for the thumbrest/tugbar 
The screw in the middle of the pickguard is correct, but the lack of the two holes for the thumbrest does mean that the guard is not original.
JJ72 Frets: 108
02 Nov, 2024
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