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Not just the USA. This will impact across the globe. Once I saw poor, black, women saying that they'd be voting for the right wing racist misogynist I thought we're all f*cked. Sometimes I do wonder whether uneducated low IQ folk should be allowed to vote - when they're not allowed out on their own without supervision normally. 
mrkb Frets: 7697
06 Nov, 2024
You spelt shite wrong
rze99 Frets: 2637
06 Nov, 2024
I’ve been on a long road trip through what was then and is now again Trump heartland (Montana). 

When you see it and live it you realise that educated liberal Brits (probably a majority on these pages) literally have zero knowledge of the lives real non-affluent Americans lead.

The glossy TV and movie stuff is just bullshit. There are vast swathes of people who are poor with no healthcare or education and they get their education if you can call it that from right wing channels and people they know.  

It’s depressing and astonishing to talk to these people. To them Trump “MAGA” makes some form of perverse sense and it’s understandable when you’re there.



equalsql Frets: 6422
06 Nov, 2024
Yep.
The Idiocy is now in full swing.
Those poor folks.
Kiss goodbye to the world.
I think it's hilarious that a lot of people who voted for trump did so because are broke. So their solution is to make trump president...a rich elitist tax dodger and is one of the very people who made them broke in the first place lol

Same with the latino voters. Traumatised by dictators and despots in their countries they said...so they voted for an American dictator and despot instead. Like WTF

Fkin hilarious and shambolic country. "Idiocracy" in full effect over there now! 
scrumhalf Frets: 11921
07 Nov, 2024
I read yesterday that the estimated cost of the election was $159bn. I don't know how that was calculated but it seems to me to be an astounding waste of money. Even 1% of that would be horrendous.

It reminds me of Dolly Parton's quote "it costs a lot of money to look this trashy".
I was also in the southern USA a few weeks back. The poverty is real and very very scary. I dont blame any of the people in that awful situation for the way they cast their vote.

RIP USA 1955 - 1957

America has left the building.
Hootsmon Frets: 16456
07 Nov, 2024
I was also in the southern USA a few weeks back. The poverty is real and very very scary. I dont blame any of the people in that awful situation for the way they cast their vote.

RIP USA 1955 - 1957

America has left the building.

Yeah I agree but it would be a lot easier to process if their choice of candidate was a halfway decent human being
Hootsmon said:
I was also in the southern USA a few weeks back. The poverty is real and very very scary. I dont blame any of the people in that awful situation for the way they cast their vote.

RIP USA 1955 - 1957

America has left the building.

Yeah I agree but it would be a lot easier to process if their choice of candidate was a halfway decent human being
Youd be referring to President Inept?

There's one guy from New Orleans I keep thinking about. No hustle, no hassle, just a guy with absolutely nothing telling it as it is. Mrs V and I try and do our bit to help but personally I still feel the financial equivalent of survivors guilt and we're not exactly loaded.
motorhead Frets: 111
07 Nov, 2024
A few years ago, I read some books from the "hick lit" genre. Tales of human misery from the American heartland. I stopped after a few because I couldn't take any more of it. Some of these are now movies - The Devil All The Time, The Sisters Brothers. Anyway, whenever I wonder WTAF is going on over there, I think of those books and it does seem a lot clearer.
merlin Frets: 7010
07 Nov, 2024
248 years old and heading the way of the dodo. Poor innings really but based on slavery, invasion, theft, lies and corruption what could they (or we for that matter) expect.
Offset Frets: 14916
08 Nov, 2024
Sometimes I do wonder whether uneducated low IQ folk should be allowed to vote - when they're not allowed out on their own without supervision normally. 
They certainly shouldn't be allowed to run for President, but here we are.
rze99 said:
I’ve been on a long road trip through what was then and is now again Trump heartland (Montana). 

When you see it and live it you realise that educated liberal Brits (probably a majority on these pages) literally have zero knowledge of the lives real non-affluent Americans lead.

The glossy TV and movie stuff is just bullshit. There are vast swathes of people who are poor with no healthcare or education and they get their education if you can call it that from right wing channels and people they know.  

It’s depressing and astonishing to talk to these people. To them Trump “MAGA” makes some form of perverse sense and it’s understandable when you’re there.



All the more reason to vote Democrat rather than Republican. I remember the first time Trump was elected they interviewed one of his voters who had as little money as they had intelligence who said Obamacare was great. Trump was already dismantling it, as he had promised pre election. 
Trump will make America grate again.

Big Donald's ideas may do America some good by boosting the economy with tax cuts and less red tape, getting businesses to invest and create jobs. He appears to be all about reworking trade deals to favour American industries and cut down trade deficits. By tightening up the borders and having stricter immigration policies, he reckons it'll sort out security issues and ease competition in the job market. Plus, his "America First" stance means he's putting the country's own interests front and centre in foreign policy and economic decisions.

I'm not sure how tariffs will benefit the bod on the street.

His policies are a race to bottom in terms of wages, (deregulation, getting rid of paid overtime), inflationary (Tariffs, deportations). The rich will get richer but poor even poorer and now with no safety net.
Tannin Frets: 6243
21 Nov, 2024
His policies are a race to bottom in terms of wages, (deregulation, getting rid of paid overtime), inflationary (Tariffs, deportations). The rich will get richer but poor even poorer and now with no safety net.

To keep all the economic migrants out seeking higher wages and a better, safer place to live, Mexico will have to build a wall.
His policies are a race to bottom in terms of wages, (deregulation, getting rid of paid overtime), inflationary (Tariffs, deportations). The rich will get richer but poor even poorer and now with no safety net.
Amen. He was able to dupe millions of poor Americans his first priority is them.


longi Frets: 96
10 Dec, 2024


And so it was......... Well except Trump beat Harris by only 1.4%. His horror show interviews have already started. Oh God, his interviews are awful.
That quote is about as real as Gregg Wallace’s certificate of completion for diversity training.