Tonex One - can it be a bit glitchy?
I just got one of these. I did the firmware update and I was trying to get to grips with it when I noticed I couldn't get it to go into 'browsing' mode (alt+footswitch). It did it once, after I cycled through the global settings, but then never again. I was thinking maybe I had a faulty unit but I just tried a factory reset and now it seems to be working. I'm a bit worried that it's going to be a bit flaky. Anyone else had issues like this? Thanks!
Comments
No, not had that happen with me.
I responded to you in the other thread on how to enter stomp mode / bypass to use as an interface to trial sounds.
I have had it where a patch/preset/ tone model whatever the vernacular is has stuttered. That’s normal an issue with the download when you dragged it onto the pedal. If you delete then re do it works fine.
If you do a search for 'tonex one cheat sheet' you will find a handy page that shows what all the lights/ buttons do.
I know that there are 2 different actions for the double press, depending on the length of time pressed, ie 3 seconds vs 6 seconds.
it can be confusing, but once you have a couple of presets stored in A/B that you like, there is really no need to touch it.
It is very much a 'player' vs a modelling device, and once you get used to it, is probably the best sounding thing available.
You can have it in browsing mode, which lets you select between 3 presets, which is kind of a hack, because the lights flash, but it is generally best to have just A/B mode with 2 good sounds balanced.
Be aware, that any tweaks you make on the pedal are saved, and will therefore be different to the original patches when you re-connect to the software - you should save them back into the software first, before you try to swap things around.
They get saved with original name plus 001 etc, and it does matter if you have level or eq matched the presets on the pedal.
Only really matters if you have it set just right, and want to back it up, but I find that small changes in gain can have a pretty dramatic effect on the final result, meaning a fairly average sounding Marshall preset can sound amazing with a slightly lower input gain,and as there is no indicator of the actual setting, it can be tricky to get it just right.
I also find it useful, to do a rescan of patches before disconnecting the pedal, as patches can be confusing in the software, and you might not be actually be hearing the patch as it is saved, I think there is a bug where settings changes done on the amp panel carry across patches, and I have yet to see it being fixed, there is a pretty big update coming which will allow live edits on the pedal, so things might change-hopefully for the better.
Stick with it, as it is nice to just be able to play with a great tone without endless tweaking.
I know that there are 2 different actions for the double press, depending on the length of time pressed, ie 3 seconds vs 6 seconds.
it can be confusing, but once you have a couple of presets stored in A/B that you like, there is really no need to touch it.
It is very much a 'player' vs a modelling device, and once you get used to it, is probably the best sounding thing available.
You can have it in browsing mode, which lets you select between 3 presets, which is kind of a hack, because the lights flash, but it is generally best to have just A/B mode with 2 good sounds balanced.
Be aware, that any tweaks you make on the pedal are saved, and will therefore be different to the original patches when you re-connect to the software - you should save them back into the software first, before you try to swap things around.
They get saved with original name plus 001 etc, and it does matter if you have level or eq matched the presets on the pedal.
Only really matters if you have it set just right, and want to back it up, but I find that small changes in gain can have a pretty dramatic effect on the final result, meaning a fairly average sounding Marshall preset can sound amazing with a slightly lower input gain,and as there is no indicator of the actual setting, it can be tricky to get it just right.
I also find it useful, to do a rescan of patches before disconnecting the pedal, as patches can be confusing in the software, and you might not be actually be hearing the patch as it is saved, I think there is a bug where settings changes done on the amp panel carry across patches, and I have yet to see it being fixed, there is a pretty big update coming which will allow live edits on the pedal, so things might change-hopefully for the better.
Stick with it, as it is nice to just be able to play with a great tone without endless tweaking.
Wow. All the words. =)andy_k said:If you do a search for 'tonex one cheat sheet' you will find a handy page that shows what all the lights/ buttons do.
I know that there are 2 different actions for the double press, depending on the length of time pressed, ie 3 seconds vs 6 seconds.
it can be confusing, but once you have a couple of presets stored in A/B that you like, there is really no need to touch it.
It is very much a 'player' vs a modelling device, and once you get used to it, is probably the best sounding thing available.
You can have it in browsing mode, which lets you select between 3 presets, which is kind of a hack, because the lights flash, but it is generally best to have just A/B mode with 2 good sounds balanced.
Be aware, that any tweaks you make on the pedal are saved, and will therefore be different to the original patches when you re-connect to the software - you should save them back into the software first, before you try to swap things around.
They get saved with original name plus 001 etc, and it does matter if you have level or eq matched the presets on the pedal.
Only really matters if you have it set just right, and want to back it up, but I find that small changes in gain can have a pretty dramatic effect on the final result, meaning a fairly average sounding Marshall preset can sound amazing with a slightly lower input gain,and as there is no indicator of the actual setting, it can be tricky to get it just right.
I also find it useful, to do a rescan of patches before disconnecting the pedal, as patches can be confusing in the software, and you might not be actually be hearing the patch as it is saved, I think there is a bug where settings changes done on the amp panel carry across patches, and I have yet to see it being fixed, there is a pretty big update coming which will allow live edits on the pedal, so things might change-hopefully for the better.
Stick with it, as it is nice to just be able to play with a great tone without endless tweaking.
[edit - I actually wrote a lot more but it only posted the first line for some reason which came off a bit rude - sorry!]
Anyway - it seems to be working ok now after the reset. Probably some random software issue cause by me not exiting an app at the right time or something. I haven't had much of a chance to properly try it yet. I was running it into the fx return of my TH30, using TH30 profiles to see if it could replicate my amp convincingly but I didn;t get very far as it almost melted my brain due to me not realising it jumps back to full volume when you switch presets! Then I discovered the issue with getting into browsing mode which derailed me a bit.
Inital impressions are that it sounded very good through my Headrush 108 though...
Just trying to offer some advice, but if words are the problem, I can't help.gearaddict said:Wow. All the words.andy_k said:If you do a search for 'tonex one cheat sheet' you will find a handy page that shows what all the lights/ buttons do.
I know that there are 2 different actions for the double press, depending on the length of time pressed, ie 3 seconds vs 6 seconds.
it can be confusing, but once you have a couple of presets stored in A/B that you like, there is really no need to touch it.
It is very much a 'player' vs a modelling device, and once you get used to it, is probably the best sounding thing available.
You can have it in browsing mode, which lets you select between 3 presets, which is kind of a hack, because the lights flash, but it is generally best to have just A/B mode with 2 good sounds balanced.
Be aware, that any tweaks you make on the pedal are saved, and will therefore be different to the original patches when you re-connect to the software - you should save them back into the software first, before you try to swap things around.
They get saved with original name plus 001 etc, and it does matter if you have level or eq matched the presets on the pedal.
Only really matters if you have it set just right, and want to back it up, but I find that small changes in gain can have a pretty dramatic effect on the final result, meaning a fairly average sounding Marshall preset can sound amazing with a slightly lower input gain,and as there is no indicator of the actual setting, it can be tricky to get it just right.
I also find it useful, to do a rescan of patches before disconnecting the pedal, as patches can be confusing in the software, and you might not be actually be hearing the patch as it is saved, I think there is a bug where settings changes done on the amp panel carry across patches, and I have yet to see it being fixed, there is a pretty big update coming which will allow live edits on the pedal, so things might change-hopefully for the better.
Stick with it, as it is nice to just be able to play with a great tone without endless tweaking.
Yeah, if you see my edited response above I actually wrote a long post referencing your comments but it only posted the first line for some reason. Apologies, and thanks for your input.andy_k said:Just trying to offer some advice, but if words are the problem, I can't help.gearaddict said:Wow. All the words.andy_k said:If you do a search for 'tonex one cheat sheet' you will find a handy page that shows what all the lights/ buttons do.
I know that there are 2 different actions for the double press, depending on the length of time pressed, ie 3 seconds vs 6 seconds.
it can be confusing, but once you have a couple of presets stored in A/B that you like, there is really no need to touch it.
It is very much a 'player' vs a modelling device, and once you get used to it, is probably the best sounding thing available.
You can have it in browsing mode, which lets you select between 3 presets, which is kind of a hack, because the lights flash, but it is generally best to have just A/B mode with 2 good sounds balanced.
Be aware, that any tweaks you make on the pedal are saved, and will therefore be different to the original patches when you re-connect to the software - you should save them back into the software first, before you try to swap things around.
They get saved with original name plus 001 etc, and it does matter if you have level or eq matched the presets on the pedal.
Only really matters if you have it set just right, and want to back it up, but I find that small changes in gain can have a pretty dramatic effect on the final result, meaning a fairly average sounding Marshall preset can sound amazing with a slightly lower input gain,and as there is no indicator of the actual setting, it can be tricky to get it just right.
I also find it useful, to do a rescan of patches before disconnecting the pedal, as patches can be confusing in the software, and you might not be actually be hearing the patch as it is saved, I think there is a bug where settings changes done on the amp panel carry across patches, and I have yet to see it being fixed, there is a pretty big update coming which will allow live edits on the pedal, so things might change-hopefully for the better.
Stick with it, as it is nice to just be able to play with a great tone without endless tweaking.
No worries.gearaddict said:Yeah, if you see my edited response above I actually wrote a long post referencing your comments but it only posted the first line for some reason. Apologies, and thanks for your input.andy_k said:Just trying to offer some advice, but if words are the problem, I can't help.gearaddict said:Wow. All the words.andy_k said:If you do a search for 'tonex one cheat sheet' you will find a handy page that shows what all the lights/ buttons do.
I know that there are 2 different actions for the double press, depending on the length of time pressed, ie 3 seconds vs 6 seconds.
it can be confusing, but once you have a couple of presets stored in A/B that you like, there is really no need to touch it.
It is very much a 'player' vs a modelling device, and once you get used to it, is probably the best sounding thing available.
You can have it in browsing mode, which lets you select between 3 presets, which is kind of a hack, because the lights flash, but it is generally best to have just A/B mode with 2 good sounds balanced.
Be aware, that any tweaks you make on the pedal are saved, and will therefore be different to the original patches when you re-connect to the software - you should save them back into the software first, before you try to swap things around.
They get saved with original name plus 001 etc, and it does matter if you have level or eq matched the presets on the pedal.
Only really matters if you have it set just right, and want to back it up, but I find that small changes in gain can have a pretty dramatic effect on the final result, meaning a fairly average sounding Marshall preset can sound amazing with a slightly lower input gain,and as there is no indicator of the actual setting, it can be tricky to get it just right.
I also find it useful, to do a rescan of patches before disconnecting the pedal, as patches can be confusing in the software, and you might not be actually be hearing the patch as it is saved, I think there is a bug where settings changes done on the amp panel carry across patches, and I have yet to see it being fixed, there is a pretty big update coming which will allow live edits on the pedal, so things might change-hopefully for the better.
Stick with it, as it is nice to just be able to play with a great tone without endless tweaking.
The Tonex experience reminds me of when I went down an IR rabbit hole for a while...auditioning endless IRs, comparing A with B, liking A, then liking B more, then hating both of them, buying C and D from some professional IR company, not liking either of them, going back to basic cab sims in the modeller I am using. Rinse and repeat until I throw the modeller out of the window and go back to pedals. =)
I'm not someone who likes to be in front of a computer when I'm playing guitar and that makes finding tones on the Tonex isn't a great experience - load 20 profiles, pretty much at random, plug the pedal into the amp, audition the 20 with only the colour of the LED to tell you which one you are hearing...it's a pain. I don't think it sounds hugely better than the models from my Boss GX-100 pedal either. Certainly not gooder enough to justify the painful use of the pedal.
I'm probably returning it.
I'm not someone who likes to be in front of a computer when I'm playing guitar and that makes finding tones on the Tonex isn't a great experience - load 20 profiles, pretty much at random, plug the pedal into the amp, audition the 20 with only the colour of the LED to tell you which one you are hearing...it's a pain. I don't think it sounds hugely better than the models from my Boss GX-100 pedal either. Certainly not gooder enough to justify the painful use of the pedal.
I'm probably returning it.
I got like that with my Pod Go and headrush mx5.
The tonex one has put and end to it for the most part.
I’ve got two clean and two gains that I swap between other than that I don’t twiddle anything.
You don’t have to drag 20 in and step through on the pedal. Guitar into pedal into amp. Pedal into computer, drag a preset in and play. Try another, rinse and repeat.